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I got a hold of that Anderson in Arizona finally.

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In fact, I talked to him less than a half hour ago.

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Go ahead, tell me what you got.

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Okay, well, considering the fact that this guy is the missing party's brother or a step-brother, whatever it is,

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it gave me a pretty good rundown on his background.

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Now, they were involved in a group of seven people,

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and they were up in the woods apparently standing in timber and working on some kind of forestry project.

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And they had worked a little extra late that night because they had ideal weather,

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and when they were coming home, that's when the incident occurred.

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But all of these people, or the majority, at least four, he knew real well,

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and he said that he could vouch for their backgrounds.

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And he said that his brother had, well, he was just too smart of an individual to pull off a crazy thing like this.

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I guess he got a very high IQ.

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And he said there were several teams that went in there, civilian teams,

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that went in to do a little investigating, not much, very tinker toy type stuff.

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I mean, they didn't even have instruments for taking readings.

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In fact, the police didn't get in there to take Geiger counter readings until his brother just almost tore the place down.

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And they found very little radiation, and then another private party went in with Geiger counter,

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and he said he found slightly above normal radiation.

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But no one took any soil samples or rock samples or anything like that.

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So what it amounts to right now, there has been no intensive investigation, scientific investigation,

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and everybody seems to be waiting for this lie detector test tomorrow before they reach any conclusions.

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OK, April from Tucson is supposed to be there right now, according to this McDonald I talked from Holbrook.

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Investigating what they're doing, he hasn't any idea, whatever they do, he says.

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OK, now here's a story I got.

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Now these guys were down there and working for something rather than doing thinning trees in that area.

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OK, it's supposed to be pretty heavily forested mountainous area.

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OK, they were driving down the road, looked off to the side, and here was this object sitting there just above the ground.

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Right.

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And I'll be some type.

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OK, one of the guys for some unknown reason bailed out of the truck and started running towards it, which turns out to be this waltz guy.

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Right.

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OK, a blue, light beam came from the craft and hit him and knocked him down to the ground.

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And the rest of them thinking that they were going to do the same thing to them took off in the truck.

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And then you got down a ways, I guess, and got their senses together and kind of creeped back.

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Everything was gone.

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However, I couldn't get any time on that lap there when they left and when they came back.

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Now his brother gave me that. I don't remember what it was. I think it was around 20 minutes. It seems incredible.

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Yeah. Well, you know, depending on how scared they were.

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Right.

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OK, the time I got is 5.30.45 on a very clear evening just after dark.

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Now the Sheriff's Department has searched the area for the last three days and come up with nothing.

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Right.

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That's the story I get from McDonald's.

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Yeah, well, yeah. Anderson said that they'd gone in there with dogs and the whole bit, helicopters, and looked over everything.

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Now, I asked him what the overall reaction was to these witnesses to this thing.

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And actually, he didn't get a chance to get to them right away because the police were holding back.

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But when they finally notified him why then he started working on it and talking to the witnesses who were there.

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And he said these guys, which are all mature young men, boy, they were just had the hellsgrave scared out of them.

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And the crew boss, apparently he went back every time somebody went in to do any investigating while he went with them so they'd get the right spot.

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And he says that every time he went back in there, he'd pass out.

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Unless we've got an awful lot of good actors down there, I would assume that something very traumatic happened that has left a scar on the minds of these guys.

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And every time they go into the area, it affects them.

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I also called this Marshall Down in Taylor again.

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And he didn't have anything new to add.

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We did talk about the witnesses and everything.

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And he seems to know a couple of them and were by name anyhow.

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And he says that he couldn't really vouch for them as far as their personal character and everything like that.

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And he says they evidently did have some kind of an experience.

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And they're all just knowing around waiting for that polygraph test in the morning.

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So, I don't know.

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And another thing, somebody from Illinois, which I assume would be somebody connected with Heineck called for information and told him to give the misdebities that they were just being swamped by people calling.

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It's out in the news now, you know.

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Yeah, I haven't had a chance to see it yet.

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Well, I heard it on Cairo radio down here.

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But anyhow, somebody in Illinois told the officer to refer anybody calling in about it or anything, the number, which is supposed to be for police only.

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We're given out to the public, so which sounds kind of unusual for Heineck.

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I'm surprised they don't have somebody down in that area.

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Yeah, right.

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And APRO is supposed to be working with him too.

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Well, maybe they're just in touch.

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Yeah.

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Being a Z-Rite turn 2 saw.

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Okay, at any rate, there has been quite a few citizens call in with sightings during that period of time.

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Uh-huh.

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And I asked them about this, you know, just to check.

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And he said, by God, yeah, he said we've been getting a lot of calls from citizens reporting things at that time or before or after.

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You know, things in the sky or UFOs or whatever you want to call them.

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He said, quote him.

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And I said, okay, how about, could you give me any names or phone numbers or anything like that on these people?

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And he said, well, he didn't see any reason why not, but at the time, he couldn't locate them.

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Uh-huh.

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And he said, they have a list.

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He says, what they're doing, he says they're not investigating any of them.

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They're just taking the names, phone numbers, addresses, what they saw, and they're going to get back to him later on in the investigation.

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I see.

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So, uh, the next time I call, I told him I'd call him the next day or so, possibly Tuesday when this polygraph claim is over, and he's going to give me that list.

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Amen.

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Good.

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So that may help, uh, considerably.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Very good.

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Yeah, at that time, somebody hasn't put the squash on him, you know.

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Yeah.

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Well, it's all out in the open now, I don't see, unless they, uh, do it just for political purposes.

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Well, at first, when I called, he said, yeah, right.

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He says, I have a little statement written up here that we're allowed to give out, and that's all.

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Oh.

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So he gave me a little statement, which didn't tell me nothing, you know.

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Yeah.

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And then I got talking to him and told him where I was at and where I worked and everything, and he kind of eased up, and I got the rest of this stuff out of him.

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So, and then I asked him if it'd be available to me, you know, when I called back, and he said, sure, he didn't see any reason why not.

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Oh, that's great.

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So, possibly we'll get some more names and addresses of somebody that's awesome at the same time.

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Yeah, this Anderson said that there was another woman that he knew of that had seen an object at the same time, fairly nearby.

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So I would imagine being that they had beautiful weather down there that a lot of people have seen things.

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Thank you.

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Well, okay.

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Seems like she got more than I got there.